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High Speed Digital Design, EMI/EMC, Essentials of Electronics, SMT Manufacturing, BGA, Enhancing Reliability, Test

 

 

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Mr. Hanson answers questions about design and his seminar.

--What are the most significant problems you are seeing in high-speed digital PCB designs these days?

It's dependent on the design, i.e. high speed/low speed, high edge rate/lower edge rate and also simple PCB or large backplane design.  However, some of the glaring problems are transmission line reflection due to the capacitive load, ground bounce, crosstalk between violent aggressors (like CMOS) and sensitive victims (like ECL/PECL and analog), bypassing & power delivery, common mode differential pair problems and high speed clock loading.

--How fast are the fastest boards you are seeing? How many components and pins, and what form factors?

Several students in my classes are designing backplane, servers and blades that have clock frequencies up 11GHz.  I consulted for a company that built a backplane with 65 BGAs having over 600 balls each, 34 layers and over 58K solder joints. The fastest digital board (not microwave) was an aerospace design running at 43 GHz.  Regarding components, there is a BGA graphics processor with a clock speed of 5.6GHz and has over 3400 balls.  How would like to reflow solder that one?

--Day 1 of your seminar covers transmission lines. What are the most important points you’ll be making?

Most significant would be defining the cutoff conditions to determine when a land trace acts like a transmission line vs a lumped circuit. This will determine to a large degree the termination scheme that will be used to minimize reflection.  Also of importance would be to define skin effect, dielectric loss and proximity effect.  The interesting point about proximity effect is that if the spaces are just a fraction of the land width (like 5 to 1) this will create more signal loss than skin effect, dielectric and surface roughness combined.  Another subject is signal delay for microstrip and stripline.  With microstrip the delay is not the same for bare, solder mask (SM) covered and conformal covering, i.e. encapsulation over the SM. Also, providing the analysis for all the characteristic impedance and delay expressions for microstrips, buried microstrips, striplines and differentials will be included.

--What design techniques are needed to keep signal integrity under control?

Excellent communication among the EE Design engineer, the PCB design engineer, the test engineer and manufacturing engineer is critical.  Also, close coordination with the bareboard vendor and the EMS supplier are essential.  The inputs from all of these will have an effect as to the best design techniques for achieving signal integrity.  A very high priority is to conduct digital simulation ( like Cadence Allegro SI) and EMI/EMC simulation like CST, i.e. the more up front potential problem identification the less debug time, less problems during compliance testing and quicker time to market.

--What crosstalk problems are you seeing in high-speed designs (Day 2)?

The ever increasing high density board layouts is very challenging.  I have seen designs where 2s and 2s are being used due to density/packaging restrictions.  Interference between CMOS/TTL high edge rates and ECL/PECL is another situation.  A major concern is the sensitive analog in close proximity to the fast edge rate digital signals.  This is where guard traces around the analog traces become effective.

--How does crosstalk impact layer stacking?

To control crosstalk there has to be a distance between the aggressor and the victim versus the distance to the reference ground plane (or power plane).  Therefore, the trade off in many cases is how do I minimize my stackup layers (cost consideration) versus controlling the crosstalk and also the characteristic impedance which is also a correlation between trace width and distance to the reference plane (or planes as in striplines).  As each new design is released there is typically a higher clock rate with higher edge rates, more signals per IC package and a need for higher density which exacerbates crosstalk.  In my estimation this will be one of the major challenges for the design community as competition and cost considerations will highly influence the layer stacking.

--What do designers need to do to ensure adequate power delivery within a specified power envelope (Day 3)?

In one word it's inductance.  How much inductance is inherent in the mounted capacitor loop and the ESL of the capacitor needs to be identified.  Also, the characteristics of the power and ground planes. Today cores are being produced with less than 1 mil-in of dielectric thickness.  If these are used, they will they enhance the power delivery but at what cost.  Designers must know the bypassing capability of their output drivers.  The only way to overcome SSO is at the die level.  So the need is to provide the proper dq/dt at the needed IC pin at the right time.  Therefore, one must know the maximum level of power delivery noise allowed in the overall noise budget.  With that knowledge the strategy is to provide the correct IC die capacitance, innerplane capacitance, discrete capacitance and capacitor types (X2Y, Y cap, reverse electrode, etc.) to achieve this goal.  Another factor, especially as frequency increases, is the anti/parallel resonance considerations which may require breaking up the capacitors into banks with different ESRs and different loop inductances.

--What “best practices” do you advocate for differential signaling and clock distribution (Day 4)?

Probably the main concern is differential unbalance caused by the two lines not being the same electrical length.  This causes common mode and is the main reason differentials can fail EMI radiation.  Another consideration is to assign the more sensitive pairs as striplines. Avoid broadside layouts, i.e. make them be edge to edge.  Broadside in many cases can render the design inoperable due to returning currents being contained on different ground planes (or possibly power plane(s)) which can cause the receiver to see a totally different noise spectrums on its inputs.

--When does EMI become a concern in PCB design, and what do designers need to know (Day 5)?

The two big concerns are radiated emissions and ESD.  All radiated emission formulas have both edge rate and frequency as two of the parameters.  Therefore, many of the signal integrity rules also apply to EMI.  The main cause of radiation from circuit boards is the size of the antenna loop, that is the pathway the current takes to the load and the direction/pathway that it takes to return to the VRM.  The more area this entails, the more radiation.  Regarding ESD, the designer must know the ESD pulse edge rate which in turn will define the protection device (TVSS)  or the filter.  Another concern today is the ever increasing frequency, higher clock rates and power dissipation in the design.  Designs are becoming higher density with  more power dissipation (P=F*C*Vsquared).  Due to the higher clock rates the apertures are decreasing in size to minimize harmonic radiation, i.e. the wavelengths are becoming shorter.  However, with smaller apertures the design is much less efficient in allowing heat to escaping the enclosure.  This is one of the major concerns in EMI mechanical compatibility design. 

--What Cadence tools will the seminar demonstrate?

Each day at the conclusion of the training session Cadence will demonstrate examples of the lecture material.  This will provide the student with real world examples of the methods used to design it correctly.  The following provides the itinerary of the demonstrations.

Here is the list of demos designated for each day's topic:

TRANSMISSION LINES (Day 1) - Fundamentals of transmission lines including stripline vs micro-strip.

Cadence Demo: Pre- and post-route SI analysis using ideal and lossy transmission lines.

CROSSTALK (Day 2) - Stack-up optimization and forward/reverse crosstalk.

Cadence Demo: Pre- and post-route crosstalk analysis as well as crosstalk estimation.

POWER DELIVERY (Day 3) - Proper use of decoupling capacitors and identifying power plane resonance.

Cadence Demo: Allegro PCB Power Delivery Network (PDN) analysis

DIFFERENTIAL SIGNALING (Day 4) - Loosely vs. tightly coupled differential pairs; clock distribution.

Cadence Demo: Tandem and broad-side differential pair routing and analysis.

EMI/EMC  (Day 5) - Source, path, and receptor as well as how EMI/EMC tests are conducted.

Cadence Demo: EM control rule checking and EMI net analysis.

--What’s your most important advice for clients working with high-speed digital boards?

One could write a book on this, but to briefly state the advice: know the rules of high speed design, work as a team in the prototype design, simulate the design, and work closely with the bareboard vendor.

 

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